Is there any possibility to see real world map with true start location? Not just Europe or Asia or America whole world map, it would be really great if you guys(developers) think about it and give option to gamers to play the game with real world map, I am pretty sure it will be fun to play the game if you create huge real world map! :)

Most likely then not, region scale that game uses will cause huge imbalance on real world map, to the point it will be simply not fun at all.

I'd rather have that option as a mod.

Sublustris wrote:

Most likely then not, region scale that game uses will cause huge imbalance on real world map, to the point it will be simply not fun at all.

I'd rather have that option as a mod.

Personally I always loved playing with friends on real world maps, even on maps that resembled Monopoly games,completley flat maps without any resources, or maps who consisted 90percent out of mountains or ocean. Because in my opinion the fun of playing on such extraordinairy maps doesnt come from realism, or a good balancing, but rather on adapting to the unique challanges and the overall "lol" effect. I think peole who play on a real world map dont really want their game to be well balanced and normal as on all the other maps, but rather have a special refreshing new crazy experience. And I can totally understand that you wont make a "monopoly" map, and rather let the comunity add it themselves, but there should at least one real world map.

sincerely Drai

(Sorry for my spelling, Im not english)

Abdulvokhid wrote:

Is there any possibility to see real world map with true start location? Not just Europe or Asia or America whole world map, it would be really great if you guys(developers) think about it and give option to gamers to play the game with real world map, I am pretty sure it will be fun to play the game if you create huge real world map! :)

I'd definitely love that. I like how one poster in CivFanatics divided it in regions:

TSL would be harder due to the game mechanics. At most you could TSL the ancient cultures (olmecs would get an OP start, though :P).

We've seen this request many times. There will be support for custom maps, but that probably won't be ready for release, and we also can't promise we'll have the time to prepare an earth map ourselves (as we want to focus on delivering a great core game experience first.)

"True start locations", on the other hand won't work with Humankind, because you don't pick your culture before the game, but only after several turns. Everybody starts as a neolithic tribe.

Would TSL scenario be possible with Mods? For example, would it be possible to “lock” in the various players to be a certain sequence of cultures? And assuming we can create some custom cultures to some degree, even if it’s just superficial changes (culture name), then I would think a TSL Europe map could be doable. Hoping we can at least have 10 players on a map (maybe more?). Adding in Independent Peoples can fill in the gaps. 

I think You Devs don't have idea how big is a community of fans that love Yet (not) Another Maps Pack mod from Civ VI and how disappointing 2K is with latest bugs on it - many of us are not some passionate gamers that play a lot in many of them - many of us are older guys who select few games that we play because of it replay-ability and we are not active on some games forums or discussions.

Something like this with TSL will gain a lot new fans and many of them will simply switch to You. I guess this will need strong modding flexibility and will not be available on release - but if modding will allow it community will make it happen for sure.

But how does TSL even work at all here? Do you skip the Neolithic era? Start with a culture? And what happens when you change cultures? TSL just doesn't make sense without removing some of the biggest game features.

I definitely do not see this kind of game mode, if you will, being relevant with the way Humankind is designed. Part of the charm here is you can play without any set start location and adapt to it without the feeling of restarting the game over and over, such as civilization. Shoot, I've been in multiplayer games where we restart for 30 to 40 minutes, definitely going to be happy I won't be doing that ever again.

The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

We've seen this request many times. There will be support for custom maps, but that probably won't be ready for release, and we also can't promise we'll have the time to prepare an earth map ourselves (as we want to focus on delivering a great core game experience first.)

"True start locations", on the other hand won't work with Humankind, because you don't pick your culture before the game, but only after several turns. Everybody starts as a neolithic tribe.

BTW does that mean we will not be able to set players starting position at all in the World Editor and they'll always be random, even on fixed maps ?

Even if you did have an Earth map, it would have to be pretty small as there aren't enough civs/cultures to make it competitive early on. Everyone would be just filling up space. I think it would be better to use regional maps. Just my opinion.

Grathocke wrote:

Even if you did have an Earth map, it would have to be pretty small as there aren't enough civs/cultures to make it competitive early on. Everyone would be just filling up space. I think it would be better to use regional maps. Just my opinion.

Yeah, fair point.

Gedemon wrote:

BTW does that mean we will not be able to set players starting position at all in the World Editor and they'll always be random, even on fixed maps ?

If the answer is yes that really sucks... I hope that maybe the Avatars can be associated with a specific location. Then the first scout is not in a random starting location.

Grathocke wrote:

Even if you did have an Earth map, it would have to be pretty small as there aren't enough civs/cultures to make it competitive early on. Everyone would be just filling up space. I think it would be better to use regional maps. Just my opinion.

I think the dev team is able to add more cultures to fill up each era on a world map. Maybe in a future expention... There is specialists who can help to find informations about a lot of forgotten cultures and probably they will be very pleased to help. That can make it more attractive for older players like me and also people who enjoy replaying history on earth maps. That make worth the investment. If devs do something like that, many people will accept to pay extra money for it. 

If in humankind wont be real world map and real world religions its not civilization game its just some random strategic game which will definitely disappoint fans of civilization game most of us was hoping that this game will stop monopoly of the CIVILIZATION Games from  Firaxis Games studio, as i bought game when it was announced first time i was hoping to try the game which will give me more fun and joy(of course by saying joy and fun means to play the game with real world map and true start location). I still hoping that developers will think about it and add to the game real world religions, true start location, more cultures and real world map, it should not be done at the beginning(on release date) it can be added as DLC to the game later.

At the end I don't think those ideas are really bad which cant be done, as I am also software developer I know that it can be added to the game if the developers want it, and it definitely attracts more players to play the game and it brings profit to the company that's why its not bad idea to think and work on it,

Abdulvokhid wrote:

If in humankind wont be real world map and real world religions its not civilization game its just some random strategic game which will definitely disappoint fans of civilization game most of us was hoping that this game will stop monopoly of the CIVILIZATION Games from  Firaxis Games studio, as i bought game when it was announced first time i was hoping to try the game which will give me more fun and joy(of course by saying joy and fun means to play the game with real world map and true start location). I still hoping that developers will think about it and add to the game real world religions, true start location, more cultures and real world map, it should not be done at the beginning(on release date) it can be added as DLC to the game later.

At the end I don't think those ideas are really bad which cant be done, as I am also software developer I know that it can be added to the game if the developers want it, and it definitely attracts more players to play the game and it brings profit to the company that's why its not bad idea to think and work on it,

There are historical religions ingame already, and some fans have already done some (very) preliminary work on an Earth map. Also, considering the map editor was shown of in a dedicated stream today, I think there's a pretty good chance that it will be available on release