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ENDLESS™ Space 2 is turn-based 4X space-strategy that launches players into the space colonization age of different civilizations within the ENDLESS™ Universe. Your Vision. Their Future.

Neutral state for diplomacy

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7 years ago
Dec 4, 2016, 12:19:26 PM

Currently you start your relationship with another empire in "cold war".

Which is a bad way to start unless you are a warmonger (which you could be).


Peace needs to be researched (which is stupid but a separate topic) so is not an option from start..


There should be a new diplomacy state called "Neutral".

The effects would be:


State
Battles inside influence zones
Battles outside influence zones
Attacking outposts
Borders
Trade
Sharing vision or Empire details
War
AllowedAllowedAllowedClosedClosedNothing
Cold war
Starts war
AllowedAllowedClosedClosedNothing
Neutral
Starts war
Starts cold war
Starts cold war
OpenedAllowedAllowed
Peace
Starts war
Starts war
Starts war
OpenedAllowedAllowed
Allies
Starts war
Starts war
Starts war
OpenedAllowedAllowed


One point I am still not sure about is if in cold war attacking an outpost (not a colony) should be allowed or an act of war.

It is in a way attacking another empire but in the same way is attacking ships outside of influence zones.


It is not a mistake that when in neutral state attacking outside influence zone or an outpost shifts to cold war only.
If you are at peace then something like that is an act of war. 

If you are neutral consequences are not so big.

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7 years ago
Jul 6, 2017, 9:30:17 AM

Do you mean borders whith "boarders" ?


In this case, when you talk about border closed/open, you mean we can have a diplomatic send to allow player to travel in the other player space ? Borders are not really closed when at war

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7 years ago
Jul 6, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
Elphealer wrote:

Do you mean borders whith "boarders" ?


In this case, when you talk about border closed/open, you mean we can have a diplomatic send to allow player to travel in the other player space ? Borders are not really closed when at war

Yes there was a typo. Fixed it thanks.


With borders I meant that it should be the default setting when you are in that state.

True that for war it doesn't make sense as you don't case about border close and just invade.

But it makes sense for "cold war".


This is just a default setting and trough diplomacy you can change that.

So you could have peace and closed borders for whatever reason but still allow for trade.

It would also be good to have exploration ships as a separate type.

So that you can say closed borders to attack ships but we allow for explorations ships to pass.

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