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The Umbral Choir

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6 years ago
May 4, 2018, 12:47:31 AM

The "choir" thing just gives me the chills, man. Sound doesn't propagate through vacuum and they are a spy faction. What is this sinister choir I don't even hear? And a choir usually echoes with lots of reverb. It's a f***ing silent choir of ghosts! Damn, that idea is good!

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6 years ago
May 9, 2018, 6:03:18 AM

I quoted JamesHarrison in the initial name vote because I liked this name. Since it was JamesHarrison having made this suggestion in the initial naming vote that really sparked more people to call for a contest in the first place I would like both him and Domokun84 to receive credit if this wins.

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6 years ago
May 8, 2018, 12:30:11 PM

This name. This is the one. I was goign to think up my own to submit, but no, this one works.

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6 years ago
May 8, 2018, 12:11:26 PM

yep, Gintama it is!

sadly someone else already had "MADAO" and as we can't use any symbols (like a period -> M.A.D.A.O. or a minus -> M-A-D-A-O) i had to add a number ...

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6 years ago
May 8, 2018, 3:15:22 AM
MADAO7 wrote:
Abrasax wrote:

Sorry. I don't like it. Anything that sounds like it was named by the United Empire doesn't properly reflect the idea of naming an ancient alien race. I am a bit disappointed by the recent change from great names like Sophon, Sheredyn, Horatio, etc. to names like Riftborn or Unfallen. It just seems generic in general and lacking sincerity.

yeah, same here.
i think a name should be something unique, a single word, not a brief description or something one would expect from a tooltip.
afterall i.e. dogs are called ... well ... "dogs" and not something like "barking quadrupedal carnivore".

(yeah, i know that there are a lot of race/species-names [in RL] where the description kind of morphed into a name, but all those names were given by another race/species, meaning they did not have a name for themself [i.e. animals] or the "namer" just ignored it / didn't care [unknown cultures] ... i would imagine a spacefaring ancient species already has a name ... so, are we ignorant and don't care about that?)

still, "Umbral Choir" doesn't sound that bad ... i think i could live with that (but no vote from me, sorry).

No need to be sorry mate! It's all part of the collaboration process! Everyone has their own tastes and preferences and thats what makes this a great team and community. Also love your name is it a reference to Gintama by any chance?

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6 years ago
May 8, 2018, 12:18:08 AM
Abrasax wrote:

Sorry. I don't like it. Anything that sounds like it was named by the United Empire doesn't properly reflect the idea of naming an ancient alien race. I am a bit disappointed by the recent change from great names like Sophon, Sheredyn, Horatio, etc. to names like Riftborn or Unfallen. It just seems generic in general and lacking sincerity.

yeah, same here.
i think a name should be something unique, a single word, not a brief description or something one would expect from a tooltip.
afterall i.e. dogs are called ... well ... "dogs" and not something like "barking quadrupedal carnivore".

(yeah, i know that there are a lot of race/species-names [in RL] where the description kind of morphed into a name, but all those names were given by another race/species, meaning they did not have a name for themself [i.e. animals] or the "namer" just ignored it / didn't care [unknown cultures] ... i would imagine a spacefaring ancient species already has a name ... so, are we ignorant and don't care about that?)

still, "Umbral Choir" doesn't sound that bad ... i think i could live with that (but no vote from me, sorry).

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6 years ago
May 7, 2018, 10:50:36 PM
Abrasax wrote:

Sorry. I don't like it. Anything that sounds like it was named by the United Empire doesn't properly reflect the idea of naming an ancient alien race. I am a bit disappointed by the recent change from great names like Sophon, Sheredyn, Horatio, etc. to names like Riftborn or Unfallen. It just seems generic in general and lacking sincerity.

No sweat borther, to each his own. Usually an ambigous name is created in order to part a certain sense of the unknowable and alien element. Drones or beings without individuality would reflect this well. I guess it all comes down to whether you like to think of this race as a collective or individuals with independent will.

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6 years ago
May 7, 2018, 10:44:27 PM

Sorry. I don't like it. Anything that sounds like it was named by the United Empire doesn't properly reflect the idea of naming an ancient alien race. I am a bit disappointed by the recent change from great names like Sophon, Sheredyn, Horatio, etc. to names like Riftborn or Unfallen. It just seems generic in general and lacking sincerity.

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6 years ago
May 6, 2018, 10:47:18 AM

The name sounds great - sinister and mysterious, but not at all edgy - very fitting for an ancient, shadowy spy faction!
I really like the Evangelionesque "angelic" potential, but we could also go for the "eerie sounds" naming convention (Echoes, Whispers, Murmurs, Shrieks etc.)

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6 years ago
May 6, 2018, 9:09:12 AM

This sounds very nice and leaves space for a creepy backstory, something we´re missing so far. I like it!

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6 years ago
May 5, 2018, 1:20:11 AM

Whit these names included... The competition will be hot.

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6 years ago
May 4, 2018, 9:48:49 PM
JamesHarrison wrote:

Intrestingly I posted this name on my list of names on the frount page of the "vote for a name contest"... :-)...I'm super pleased you've had the same idea, or even mreseo if you saw the name and wasted to run with it - I missed the prelude to this contest! I should quickly put one of my others up! 


How about
 - The Gathering Darkness,

 - The Unbral Choir,
 - Shades of Shattered Memory,

 - The Hidden Conclave,

 - Keepers of the Eclipsed Tomes,

 - Abyss of Lost Dreams...

So many good choices! Whichever name wins this is going to be one badass faction. 


Edit* I really like "Keepers of the Eclipsed Tomes" you should post that one too!

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6 years ago
May 4, 2018, 9:47:41 PM
Drakonyan wrote:

The "choir" thing just gives me the chills, man. Sound doesn't propagate through vacuum and they are a spy faction. What is this sinister choir I don't even hear? And a choir usually echoes with lots of reverb. It's a f***ing silent choir of ghosts! Damn, that idea is good!

Hah I love it, a ghostly choir singing dirges and hymns no one else can hear. I didn't even think of the sound aspect of it but here's to collaboration!

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6 years ago
May 4, 2018, 12:05:54 PM

Intrestingly I posted this name on my list of names on the frount page of the "vote for a name contest"... :-)...I'm super pleased you've had the same idea, or even mreseo if you saw the name and wasted to run with it - I missed the prelude to this contest! I should quickly put one of my others up! 


How about
 - The Gathering Darkness,

 - The Unbral Choir,
 - Shades of Shattered Memory,

 - The Hidden Conclave,

 - Keepers of the Eclipsed Tomes,

 - Abyss of Lost Dreams...

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6 years ago
May 1, 2018, 11:39:44 PM

Simple explination - Umbral can mean:


1. shade; shadow. 

2. A phantom or shadowy apparition, as of someone or something not physically present; ghost; spectral image. 


In my mind they're ancient, mysterious and powerful from spaaaaaaaaace! ;) Like the opposite coin of the angelic choir of chirstian thology.  You'd also have a good base of names to draw from for ships (Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones that kind of thing). 


At least that's my reason but anything with umbra or umbral is fine with me. Elder scroll geeks unite.


Edit* I also loved this idea so much I'm updating my orignal post with feedback from Drakonyan. Adding to the mystery and background, more collaboration is welcome!

Drakonyan wrote:

The "choir" thing just gives me the chills, man. Sound doesn't propagate through vacuum and they are a spy faction. What is this sinister choir I don't even hear? And a choir usually echoes with lots of reverb. It's a f***ing silent choir of ghosts! Damn, that idea is good!

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6 years ago
May 7, 2018, 3:53:50 AM
Waltari wrote:

This sounds very nice and leaves space for a creepy backstory, something we´re missing so far. I like it!

Yes, this is why I like it as well, it gives room to grow rather than having a very specific backstory. Kind of like the wraith themselves never truely fixed but ambiguous, unknowable and amorphic. That's why I did't necessarily want a true name as I liken it to the concept of giving things a name to gain contol and understanding over them.

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6 years ago
May 9, 2018, 3:26:29 PM
Ellume wrote:

I quoted JamesHarrison in the initial name vote because I liked this name. Since it was JamesHarrison having made this suggestion in the initial naming vote that really sparked more people to call for a contest in the first place I would like both him and Domokun84 to receive credit if this wins.

Personally I'm fine with that, we both came up with the same name so it's just a matter of timing. To paraphrase one if my favorite books "Its timeliness and not originality that men value most!"


But the way the polls are going so far it looks like we may be runner up to Lifthrasir which is also interesting.

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6 years ago
May 11, 2018, 5:23:32 AM

I believe they usually take the top few and then create a vote. I'm looking forward to seeing what all the top choices are! Currently looks like this one will be in the list.

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6 years ago
May 16, 2018, 1:50:52 PM

I have posted the Keepers of the Eclipsed tomes if you want to vote for that too! :-)


Really enjoying this contest :)

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